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Bottom post of the previous page:

So the Mercedes W196 "Type Monza" is not a Formula One car?

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Speaking of Fenders, this is the Lag-Talbot 26C in Le Mans configuration:

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When the "Formula 1" class started, it was a rule set for the engines. An engine class. In the early 50's they ran the drivers championship according the F2 rule set for a few years.
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Much is of the spray is generated from the underbody, covering the wheels will solve only part of the problem.
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Michkov wrote: 2 years ago Much is of the spray is generated from the underbody, covering the wheels will solve only part of the problem.
This.
And it is not just @Michkov and I thinking this.
Two blokes with 6 WDC's between them think so and say why in the linked article below......

Cars and tyres, not caution, behind F1's inability to race in the wet
Previous world champions Fernando Alonso and Sebastian Vettel say Formula 1’s current high downforce levels and wider tyres are the main cause of wet-weather visibility problems.....

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Given they are going for more ground effect in the future this is going to get worse.
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In 2017, when they added wider tyres and more downforce, I never understood the move. It's like, you know you have a dirty air problem, so you *add* downforce? Weird logic.
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Mr_Ferrari wrote: 2 years ago In 2017, when they added wider tyres and more downforce, I never understood the move. It's like, you know you have a dirty air problem, so you *add* downforce? Weird logic.
My thoughts exactly. But I think the original intent was wider wings with only a single element allowed (to reduce downforce). But the single element was outvoted by the teams and they somehow got them to agree to wider wings.
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Michkov wrote: 2 years ago Much is of the spray is generated from the underbody, covering the wheels will solve only part of the problem.
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The underbody?

To me, it seems like the wider tyres are the issue. They displace a huge amount of water.

Modern F1 cars are now bigger than a Ford F150 pickup truck. They're not much wider than they have been in the past, but they are considerably longer. The longer they are, the more downforce they generate, at the expense of agility. That means races at tracks like Monaco will get worse and worse every year. And they cannot shorten the cars because of packaging the V6 engines, all the turbo/hybrid systems + a fuel tank big enough to complete a whole race.

Next year they will be up to 10cm shorter by the regulations, which is a marginal improvement at best.

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