2021 Catarrh Grand Prix

[White six]

Bottom post of the previous page:

No, the key is Lewis was lucky and Max wasn't. It's not about Red Bull failing to take advantage.

There's been plenty unlucky runners up. Most have also won titles and Max would too. Personally I wouldn't sweat about it, Hammy has had a great season if he wins or loses

[Everso Biggyballies]

The plot thickens..... experts in the field are suggesting that Red Bull has actually got slower over the last couple of GP's, and their performance advantage over others (apart from Mercedes) has dropped. A t the same time Mercedes % advantage has increased over the past few races (although it's margin dropped marginally at Qatar.

There is talk of flexing wing plates, even flexing mountings allowing the entire wing to tilt back, ie offer a flatter less draggy profile.

There is also some thought that the way Merc uses its tyres to Red Bull may be contributing to these trends. Again going back to the low v high rake scenario, traditionally the Merc has trouble with its rears whereas RB have a more understeery car affecting the fronts.

Anyway this video explains all the variants and scenarios quite well. I found it quite interesting anyway and thought others might also.



Unfortunately just under a minute in, after the tease of whats to come, we have a little sponsor's break but you can skip through that. (40 secs worth from near 50 seconds in)

What they dont really go into much depth about are the engines. Are Mercedes benefitting from fresher engines (that might explain why in Qatar they advantage over the field had shrunk) Lets not forget that RB have not taken new engines for some time, although we dont know the 'strength' of their pool. Is that contributing to their alleged drop in performance over the last couple of races? Have the engines lost more of their edge? The video doesnt actually mention that option.....

[erwin greven]

The plot thickens..... experts in the field are suggesting that Red Bull has actually got slower over the last couple of GP's, and their performance advantage over others (apart from Mercedes) has dropped. A t the same time Mercedes % advantage has increased over the past few races (although it's margin dropped marginally at Qatar.

There is talk of flexing wing plates, even flexing mountings allowing the entire wing to tilt back, ie offer a flatter less draggy profile.

There is also some thought that the way Merc uses its tyres to Red Bull may be contributing to these trends. Again going back to the low v high rake scenario, traditionally the Merc has trouble with its rears whereas RB have a more understeery car affecting the fronts.

Anyway this video explains all the variants and scenarios quite well. I found it quite interesting anyway and thought others might also.



Unfortunately just under a minute in, after the tease of whats to come, we have a little sponsor's break but you can skip through that. (40 secs worth from near 50 seconds in)

What they dont really go into much depth about are the engines. Are Mercedes benefitting from fresher engines (that might explain why in Qatar they advantage over the field had shrunk) Lets not forget that RB have not taken new engines for some time, although we dont know the 'strength' of their pool. Is that contributing to their alleged drop in performance over the last couple of races? Have the engines lost more of their edge? The video doesnt actually mention that option.....

And remember, they lost one engine at Silverstone.

[Ruslan]

The plot thickens..... experts in the field are suggesting that Red Bull has actually got slower over the last couple of GP's, and their performance advantage over others (apart from Mercedes) has dropped. A t the same time Mercedes % advantage has increased over the past few races (although it's margin dropped marginally at Qatar.

There is talk of flexing wing plates, even flexing mountings allowing the entire wing to tilt back, ie offer a flatter less draggy profile.

There is also some thought that the way Merc uses its tyres to Red Bull may be contributing to these trends. Again going back to the low v high rake scenario, traditionally the Merc has trouble with its rears whereas RB have a more understeery car affecting the fronts.

Anyway this video explains all the variants and scenarios quite well. I found it quite interesting anyway and thought others might also.



Unfortunately just under a minute in, after the tease of whats to come, we have a little sponsor's break but you can skip through that. (40 secs worth from near 50 seconds in)

What they dont really go into much depth about are the engines. Are Mercedes benefitting from fresher engines (that might explain why in Qatar they advantage over the field had shrunk) Lets not forget that RB have not taken new engines for some time, although we dont know the 'strength' of their pool. Is that contributing to their alleged drop in performance over the last couple of races? Have the engines lost more of their edge? The video doesnt actually mention that option.....

And remember, they lost one engine at Silverstone.

Christian Horner said in an interview the week before last that the speed difference between a new Honda engine and an old Honda engine is only 0.1 seconds, while it is much greater for Mercedes (at the time of the interview Mercedes was trashing him at 0.4 seconds a lap with their new engine).

[Ruslan]

This is actually a significant discussion: https://www.grandprix.com/news/drivers- ... -move.html

To quote Sainz: "Can I push my opponent off the track? If so, how often? Only once? Multiple times? Are we given warnings?

[Everso Biggyballies]

This is actually a significant discussion: https://www.grandprix.com/news/drivers- ... -move.html

To quote Sainz: "Can I push my opponent off the track? If so, how often? Only once? Multiple times? Are we given warnings?

This is going to involve crap and fans coming together at some stage.

Im not surprised the drivers are confused. I am. The rules they worked on at Austria (Lando/Sergio) and Max with Lewis in Brazil are not from the same song sheet.

[Ruslan]

They must at some point provide some clear rules:

1. Must you always leave at least a car width of space?
2. Is it only a penalty if someone crashes?....

I could go on. But, clearly it is actually unknown at the moment what is a legal blocking move in F1 and what is not. They probably need to clarify this sooner rather than later.

On the other hand, I am glad that Masi is not confused, but apparently 19 of the 20 drivers are, as is I: https://www.pitpass.com/71403/Masi-conf ... -confusion

[White six]

This is actually a significant discussion: https://www.grandprix.com/news/drivers- ... -move.html

To quote Sainz: "Can I push my opponent off the track? If so, how often? Only once? Multiple times? Are we given warnings?

This is going to involve crap and fans coming together at some stage.

Im not surprised the drivers are confused. I am. The rules they worked on at Austria (Lando/Sergio) and Max with Lewis in Brazil are not from the same song sheet.

And prior to that they happily let Max drive Charlie wide in Austria.

[MonteCristo]

On the other hand, I am glad that Masi is not confused, but apparently 19 of the 20 drivers are, as is I: https://www.pitpass.com/71403/Masi-conf ... -confusion

Oh it couldn't be more clear .

Here, let me explain it to you: Which way is the wind blowing today? Ahh, it's a penalty!

[PTRACER]

On the other hand, I am glad that Masi is not confused, but apparently 19 of the 20 drivers are, as is I: https://www.pitpass.com/71403/Masi-conf ... -confusion

Oh it couldn't be more clear .

Here, let me explain it to you: Which way is the wind blowing today? Ahh, it's a penalty!

To me this is one of the results of over-regulating everything.