2021 Le Mans 24 Hours

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Bottom post of the previous page:

GTE AM the first 4 are nose to tail pretty much as well.
Aston 1-2 #33 and #98

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Sorry but there is NOTHING special about the Le Mans 24 hours anymore.

Barely any competition at the top level and the lower levels like GTE are filled with generic cars which are almost identical to cars at Le Mans 10+ years ago.

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A bit of rain falling in parts of the track. A few brollies out. Apparently the rain will increase according to some of the radio chat.
Also a few car having troubles with punctures

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Its RAINING again!!!!
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Antony Davidson #38 slides off the track. He was leading the LMP2 class.
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I'm feeling this race. Only problem is: I have to work tomorrow.

With Ant Davidson off, that's a huge disaster for that car. They had a substantial lead before that. Kubica leads LMP2!
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Ant Davidson had only just taken the car over as well

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PTRACER wrote: 2 years ago Sorry but there is NOTHING special about the Le Mans 24 hours anymore.
Dude. Chill. I mean, the track is pretty cool.
PTRACER wrote: 2 years agoBarely any competition at the top level and the lower levels like GTE are filled with generic cars which are almost identical to cars at Le Mans 10+ years ago.
You are on to something there, but I mentioned in another thread a new dawn is coming. Next year Peugeot will be back to bring Toyota some more proper competition. And in 2023 Ferrari, Audi and Porsche as well. And more. The GT classes will be redefined with the GT3-based cars coming in in 2024, getting Le Mans and the WEC in line with the rest of the GT world.

The biggest issue IMO was that ACO mandated amateur classes some years ago. LMP2 was dumbed down at the same time that it was booming, and GTE-Am was brought in because hell do I know. Just because French amateurs were outcompeted, I guess.

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The Pro-Am class is there to give amateur (gentleman drivers like Frits van Eerd) a chance to race at Le Mans. Privateers. We had them a LOT in the 60's and 70's. But in the 80's the factory driver took over more and more.
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Big off for the #98 Aston buried deep in the tyres at Indianapolis.

Safety car

Probably going to need barrier repairs.

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Gomes is out of the car, shaken but ok.
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Safety car coming in.

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#8 under investigation for passing under SC. Not having a good day.

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Cheeveer wrote: 2 years ago
PTRACER wrote: 2 years ago Sorry but there is NOTHING special about the Le Mans 24 hours anymore.
Dude. Chill. I mean, the track is pretty cool.
PTRACER wrote: 2 years agoBarely any competition at the top level and the lower levels like GTE are filled with generic cars which are almost identical to cars at Le Mans 10+ years ago.
You are on to something there, but I mentioned in another thread a new dawn is coming. Next year Peugeot will be back to bring Toyota some more proper competition. And in 2023 Ferrari, Audi and Porsche as well. And more. The GT classes will be redefined with the GT3-based cars coming in in 2024, getting Le Mans and the WEC in line with the rest of the GT world.

The biggest issue IMO was that ACO mandated amateur classes some years ago. LMP2 was dumbed down at the same time that it was booming, and GTE-Am was brought in because hell do I know. Just because French amateurs were outcompeted, I guess.

After a few bleak years, it is looking up for Le Mans again. It is not the first time Le Mans has had a down period, so don't loose faith. It has always bounced back.
The track is cool for sure and I don't doubt that something better will be coming, but there's nothing interesting about Scuderia Squadro Corsa Toro Rosso Forza bringing their spec Ferrari 458 to race against the same spec Porsche 911 GTWhatever for the 9th year in a row.

LMP1 is the fastest and is almost complete unsupported and 46 out of 62 entries are driving the same 3 cars. The lack of variety makes it dull.
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PTRACER wrote: 2 years ago
The track is cool for sure and I don't doubt that something better will be coming, but there's nothing interesting about Scuderia Squadro Corsa Toro Rosso Forza bringing their spec Ferrari 458 to race against the same spec Porsche 911 GTWhatever for the 9th year in a row.

LMP1 is the fastest and is almost complete unsupported and 46 out of 62 entries are driving the same 3 cars. The lack of variety makes it dull.
You are kind of looking for flaws there, and I get it. There are downspells, but in the bigger picture in the history of Le Mans, this is, and will stay, the abnormal (but still pretty great IMO). It will be spellbinding for realz next year, I promise.
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Cheeveer wrote: 2 years ago
PTRACER wrote: 2 years ago
The track is cool for sure and I don't doubt that something better will be coming, but there's nothing interesting about Scuderia Squadro Corsa Toro Rosso Forza bringing their spec Ferrari 458 to race against the same spec Porsche 911 GTWhatever for the 9th year in a row.

LMP1 is the fastest and is almost complete unsupported and 46 out of 62 entries are driving the same 3 cars. The lack of variety makes it dull.
You are kind of looking for flaws there, and I get it. There are downspells, but in the bigger picture in the history of Le Mans, this is, and will stay, the abnormal (but still pretty great IMO). It will be spellbinding for realz next year, I promise.
I'm not looking for flaws, I am just telling you what I see.

LMP2 is 25 cars and 22 of them are Oreca 07s. In the end does it matter which of them win? And will anyone other than Toyota win the Hypercar class this year?

Like I say, not bitching about the concept of the LM24h, but sad by how little there has been to interest me in the past few years or so.
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