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Bottom post of the previous page:

I asked about the technical changes that have been made to the original game which make this mod possible. This is the response I got :smiley: :
PT Racer asked about what physics changes were the most difficult to do. The brake fade patch was by far the most difficult to make. I believe this final version is the number 20 test version, but there were dozens of other versions that didn't even make it to the test stage.

Here is some important information about the physics patches that are included with the 1955 Mod and make it unique from all other mods.

1. 78A--Tire Pressure Bug Fix. Fixes bug where the player's tire grip was incorrectly adjusted for difference from optimum pressure.

GPL's .exe code adjusts the player's tire grip for the difference between actual and optimum pressure in two separate places. There is a bug in the original code where 24 psi is used instead of optimum tire pressure in one of those places.

The mod automatically includes this patch so don't download it from my website and add it separately!

The mod uses 276 kPa/40 psi as optimum tire pressure and 77 degrees C/170 degrees F as optimum temperature.

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Here is a description about the rest of the patches:

1. Adds brake fade due to brake temperature. Adds brake temperature warning light. Adds anticheat code.

This is the most important and complicated patch for the 1955 Mod. Brake fade due to high brake temperature was a very real factor for 1955 drivers. To simulate this, the player car's brake effectiveness is continually adjusted according to its brake temperature. Each car has different heating and cooling factors to mimic their different brakes. Also, 1955 drivers had extra cues when their brakes were fading such as decreased longitudinal G or brake pedal feel differences so a brake temperature warning light is added to help the player. To prevent player cheating, brake effectiveness is almost completely reduced if the patch isn't used.

Heating--the more the brake pedal is deflected, the more heating is applied.

Cooling Factors:

A. Brake Type--disk brake cars cool more quickly than drum brake cars. The Vanwall and the Connaught have disk brakes; all the rest have drum brakes.
B. Speed--the faster the car, the more the brakes will cool. The brakes will cool at rest due to natural convection, but at a very slow rate.

Brake Effectiveness: Up to a certain brake temperature, the player has maximum brake effectiveness. Above that temperature, the brake effectiveness decreases in a linear fashion until it reaches about half of maximum at the maximum allowed temperature.

Brake Temperature Warning Light: On each car's tachometer is the brake temperature warning light. Green means you have maximum braking effectiveness. Yellow means you still have maximum effectiveness, but are approaching the point where the effectiveness will start to decrease. Red means that your brake effectiveness is decreased.

The two ways to cool the brakes, regain brake effectiveness, and get the brake temperature light back into the green region are to reduce braking or go faster. The best technique is to use engine braking to slow the car as much as possible instead of using the brakes.

The AI cars don't experience brake fade due to brake temperature, but their braking effectiveness is reduced to approximately match the player. Disregard the brake temperature light for the AI cars as it has no meaning.

2. Lowers player tire grip as tread speed increases.

Real world tests report that tire grip changes as car and tread speed increases. Although the effect varies, most tests indicate that grip lowers as tread speed increases.

3. Changes championship scoring to 8 points for 1st and 0 points for 6th. Lengthens driver name display to 11 characters. Sets hand position when the driver's arm is raised. Adds steering column mounted shifter movement for the Connaught.

The 1955 driver championship used a different point scoring system than 1967. This patch corrects the race position points, but does not add a point for fastest lap as I've couldn't find a way to do that!

Some graphics displays limit the length of the driver's last name to only eight characters. This patch increases the limit to accommodate longer 1955 driver last names.

The Connaught used the Wilson preselector gearbox and a steering column mounted gear shift lever. This patch aligns the shift lever display for proper movement about the steering column for the player car, but doesn't affect the AI car display unless the player is also driving the Connaught.

4. Adds moving minute and second hands to the Gordini dashboard clock. The hour hand does not move.

5. Allows mod unique page and event .pbfs for the six 1955 championship tracks.

6. Adds 1955 Mod team names to the credits list display. The original Papyrus names are still displayed in their honor.

7. Slows the AI in corners to 90% of the track LP goal speed.

AI speed is a complex interaction among several external .ini and .lp files and the .exe's code. The main determinate of AI speed is the driver's hype setting; however, it is often difficult to match the AI top speed to their cornering speed. This patch helps to alleviate that somewhat when used with the proper hype setting.
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How great is that?!

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Haha, yes! We just need an AFM and some Veritas Meteors to chase you down.

On a personal note, I just finally got a chance to test it properly myself, with my Fanatec CSL pedals and Logitech G25.

I'm not sure, but I might be driving a modern F1 mod. Lift and coast, brake management, engine management :whistling:
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Haha, not quite. I have yet to blow a single engine, despite working it very hard on downshifts!

I just finished my Pro Short season with the Vanwall. I think I had the AI too slow, since I barely had to push at Spa or Monza. I found the "normal" race tracks, like Buenos Aires and Aintree the hardest, since that's where the brake troubles comes in the most. Being consistent enough at Monaco, Zandvoort and Aintree were my best drives because of that. There's none of that worry at Spa or Monza. Did crash out in 5 races though, only one none of my fault (18 cars piled up at Brno!).

The Vanwall is probably the most forgiving car to drive. No real vices there, but it does have disc brakes. It can bite when you get it too sideways, but I don't think the Italian cars would be any easier on the limit. The next season I do will take any one of those. More power, less sense.

End of season results:

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3° Gran Premio de la República Argentina
Race Length: 26:18.36 - 15L
1	14	J. Fangio	MER	133.8 km/h
2	24	A. Ascari	LAN	12.41
3	16	S. Moss	MER	15.18
4	18	K. Kling	MER	41.03
5	6	J. Gonzalez	FER	41.64
6	30	J. Behra	MAS	42.21
7	2	N. Farina	FER	44.10
8	26	E. Castellotti	LAN	45.56
9	22	T. Brooks	CON	1:14.72
10	20	P. Taruffi	MER	1:18.40
11	28	L. Villoresi	LAN	1:19.56
12	42	M. Hawthorn	VAN	1:29.06
13	34	L. Musso	MAS	1:30.08
14	32	R. Mieres	MAS	1:30.64
15	44	H. Schell	VAN	1:43.60
16	8	M. Trintignant	FER	1:43.99
17	36	P. Collins	MAS	1:46.51
18	40	E. Bayol	GOR	-1L
19	38	R. Manzon	GOR	-1L
20	4	D. Splaash	VAN	Susp
Fastest Lap
14	J. Fangio	MER	1:43.75


Gran Premio del Valentino
Race Length: 26:23.49 - 14L
1	24	A. Ascari	LAN	134.0 km/h
2	6	J. Gonzalez	FER	0.81
3	16	S. Moss	MER	1.59
4	18	K. Kling	MER	17.09
5	2	N. Farina	FER	21.42
6	30	J. Behra	MAS	27.81
7	26	E. Castellotti	LAN	28.37
8	20	P. Taruffi	MER	59.14
9	22	T. Brooks	CON	1:02.85
10	28	L. Villoresi	LAN	1:04.08
11	42	M. Hawthorn	VAN	1:12.57
12	32	R. Mieres	MAS	1:12.75
13	8	M. Trintignant	FER	1:13.39
14	44	H. Schell	VAN	1:27.43
15	40	E. Bayol	GOR	1:44.52
16	38	R. Manzon	GOR	1:44.88
17	36	P. Collins	MAS	1:45.26
18	34	L. Musso	MAS	Accident
19	4	D. Splaash	VAN	Accident
20	14	J. Fangio	MER	Accident
Fastest Lap
6	J. Gonzalez	FER	1:51.61


13e Grand Prix Automobile de Monaco
Race Length: 25:03.33 - 15L
1	16	S. Moss	MER	113.0 km/h
2	14	J. Fangio	MER	2.20
3	24	A. Ascari	LAN	13.34
4	18	K. Kling	MER	21.61
5	4	D. Splaash	VAN	44.13
6	6	J. Gonzalez	FER	44.56
7	30	J. Behra	MAS	53.20
8	26	E. Castellotti	LAN	54.28
9	28	L. Villoresi	LAN	54.81
10	34	L. Musso	MAS	1:01.55
11	8	M. Trintignant	FER	1:05.34
12	20	P. Taruffi	MER	1:06.01
13	32	R. Mieres	MAS	1:07.07
14	2	N. Farina	FER	1:07.64
15	22	T. Brooks	CON	1:19.51
16	36	P. Collins	MAS	1:28.22
17	44	H. Schell	VAN	-1L
18	42	M. Hawthorn	VAN	-1L
19	38	R. Manzon	GOR	-1L
20	40	E. Bayol	GOR	-1L
Fastest Lap
14	J. Fangio	MER	1:37.87


17e Grand Prix de Belgique
Race Length: 24:49.14 - 6L
1	4	D. Splaash	VAN	204.7 km/h
2	16	S. Moss	MER	19.61
3	24	A. Ascari	LAN	19.97
4	2	N. Farina	FER	34.04
5	26	E. Castellotti	LAN	38.65
6	6	J. Gonzalez	FER	39.10
7	14	J. Fangio	MER	39.61
8	18	K. Kling	MER	40.34
9	30	J. Behra	MAS	52.46
10	28	L. Villoresi	LAN	1:02.56
11	20	P. Taruffi	MER	1:03.43
12	32	R. Mieres	MAS	1:10.10
13	42	M. Hawthorn	VAN	1:31.80
14	22	T. Brooks	CON	1:32.30
15	8	M. Trintignant	FER	1:32.71
16	44	H. Schell	VAN	1:44.72
17	34	L. Musso	MAS	1:44.94
18	36	P. Collins	MAS	1:45.48
19	38	R. Manzon	GOR	2:23.75
20	40	E. Bayol	GOR	2:35.36
Fastest Lap
4	D. Splaash	VAN	4:06.03


5de Grote Prijs van Nederland
Race Length: 25:09.16 - 15L
1	14	J. Fangio	MER	150.0 km/h
2	24	A. Ascari	LAN	9.70
3	16	S. Moss	MER	15.60
4	6	J. Gonzalez	FER	17.45
5	4	D. Splaash	VAN	18.22
6	18	K. Kling	MER	34.43
7	26	E. Castellotti	LAN	43.05
8	2	N. Farina	FER	45.52
9	30	J. Behra	MAS	47.17
10	34	L. Musso	MAS	1:07.26
11	28	L. Villoresi	LAN	1:13.81
12	22	T. Brooks	CON	1:14.69
13	32	R. Mieres	MAS	1:17.94
14	20	P. Taruffi	MER	1:21.09
15	8	M. Trintignant	FER	1:21.52
16	38	R. Manzon	GOR	1:21.99
17	40	E. Bayol	GOR	1:32.32
18	42	M. Hawthorn	VAN	1:34.62
19	44	H. Schell	VAN	1:36.73
20	36	P. Collins	MAS	-1L
Fastest Lap
14	J. Fangio	MER	1:39.72


8th RAC British Grand Prix
Race Length: 28:27.40 - 14L
1	14	J. Fangio	MER	142.5 km/h
2	6	J. Gonzalez	FER	20.15
3	24	A. Ascari	LAN	20.85
4	16	S. Moss	MER	21.51
5	4	D. Splaash	VAN	24.15
6	26	E. Castellotti	LAN	45.59
7	30	J. Behra	MAS	46.54
8	18	K. Kling	MER	47.26
9	28	L. Villoresi	LAN	1:13.99
10	2	N. Farina	FER	1:14.40
11	20	P. Taruffi	MER	1:21.27
12	42	M. Hawthorn	VAN	1:30.10
13	22	T. Brooks	CON	1:30.60
14	32	R. Mieres	MAS	1:31.40
15	44	H. Schell	VAN	1:45.69
16	8	M. Trintignant	FER	1:46.13
17	34	L. Musso	MAS	1:46.65
18	38	R. Manzon	GOR	1:47.38
19	40	E. Bayol	GOR	1:49.10
20	36	P. Collins	MAS	1:52.14
Fastest Lap
14	J. Fangio	MER	2:01.44


German Grand Prix
Race Length: 28:43.82 - 3L
1	14	J. Fangio	MER	143.1 km/h
2	6	J. Gonzalez	FER	16.95
3	30	J. Behra	MAS	46.40
4	16	S. Moss	MER	46.77
5	24	A. Ascari	LAN	47.19
6	32	R. Mieres	MAS	1:27.82
7	34	L. Musso	MAS	1:28.82
8	20	P. Taruffi	MER	1:29.32
9	18	K. Kling	MER	1:29.50
10	38	R. Manzon	GOR	1:32.87
11	8	M. Trintignant	FER	1:35.21
12	42	M. Hawthorn	VAN	1:38.38
13	26	E. Castellotti	LAN	1:38.60
14	28	L. Villoresi	LAN	1:39.21
15	22	T. Brooks	CON	1:39.86
16	2	N. Farina	FER	1:40.20
17	44	H. Schell	VAN	1:45.72
18	36	P. Collins	MAS	2:02.48
19	4	D. Splaash	VAN	Puncture
20	40	E. Bayol	GOR	Accident
Fastest Lap
14	J. Fangio	MER	9:32.32


Watkins Glen Argetsinger Invitational
Race Length: 20:11.50 - 5L
1	16	S. Moss	MER	157.8 km/h
2	14	J. Fangio	MER	0.50
3	18	K. Kling	MER	18.07
4	24	A. Ascari	LAN	18.51
5	28	L. Villoresi	LAN	42.07
6	32	R. Mieres	MAS	42.91
7	34	L. Musso	MAS	43.43
8	42	M. Hawthorn	VAN	52.68
9	20	P. Taruffi	MER	53.19
10	44	H. Schell	VAN	1:05.19
11	8	M. Trintignant	FER	1:05.58
12	38	R. Manzon	GOR	1:06.65
13	40	E. Bayol	GOR	1:07.49
14	30	J. Behra	MAS	1:07.80
15	36	P. Collins	MAS	1:12.34
16	2	N. Farina	FER	Accident
17	22	T. Brooks	CON	Accident
18	4	D. Splaash	VAN	Susp
19	6	J. Gonzalez	FER	Accident
20	26	E. Castellotti	LAN	Accident
Fastest Lap
4	D. Splaash	VAN	4:00.12


Dundrod Ulster TT
Race Length: 21:34.04 - 5L
1	14	J. Fangio	MER	166.0 km/h
2	4	D. Splaash	VAN	1.76
3	24	A. Ascari	LAN	14.49
4	6	J. Gonzalez	FER	31.02
5	2	N. Farina	FER	33.13
6	18	K. Kling	MER	34.27
7	16	S. Moss	MER	38.12
8	26	E. Castellotti	LAN	39.49
9	30	J. Behra	MAS	40.56
10	28	L. Villoresi	LAN	53.30
11	20	P. Taruffi	MER	54.55
12	8	M. Trintignant	FER	58.45
13	32	R. Mieres	MAS	1:07.40
14	34	L. Musso	MAS	1:11.09
15	22	T. Brooks	CON	1:12.08
16	36	P. Collins	MAS	1:31.90
17	42	M. Hawthorn	VAN	1:40.42
18	44	H. Schell	VAN	1:48.19
19	38	R. Manzon	GOR	Retired
20	40	E. Bayol	GOR	Retired
Fastest Lap
4	D. Splaash	VAN	4:16.24


26° Gran Premio d'Italia
Race Length: 22:27.52 - 8L
1	4	D. Splaash	VAN	213.7 km/h
2	6	J. Gonzalez	FER	29.69
3	14	J. Fangio	MER	30.05
4	18	K. Kling	MER	30.24
5	30	J. Behra	MAS	31.21
6	24	A. Ascari	LAN	32.62
7	16	S. Moss	MER	33.08
8	44	H. Schell	VAN	1:03.68
9	20	P. Taruffi	MER	1:04.09
10	26	E. Castellotti	LAN	1:04.51
11	28	L. Villoresi	LAN	1:04.94
12	34	L. Musso	MAS	1:05.81
13	32	R. Mieres	MAS	1:07.17
14	2	N. Farina	FER	1:07.65
15	8	M. Trintignant	FER	1:08.12
16	36	P. Collins	MAS	1:08.55
17	38	R. Manzon	GOR	1:43.44
18	40	E. Bayol	GOR	1:43.92
19	42	M. Hawthorn	VAN	1:44.14
20	22	T. Brooks	CON	1:44.53
Fastest Lap
4	D. Splaash	VAN	2:47.41


Brno Velka Cena Ceskoslovensk
Race Length: 27:04.47 - 4L
1	16	S. Moss	MER	157.7 km/h
2	38	R. Manzon	GOR	2:45.77
3	14	J. Fangio	MER	Accident
4	6	J. Gonzalez	FER	Accident
5	18	K. Kling	MER	Accident
6	26	E. Castellotti	LAN	Accident
7	30	J. Behra	MAS	Accident
8	24	A. Ascari	LAN	Retired
9	2	N. Farina	FER	Accident
10	32	R. Mieres	MAS	Accident
11	8	M. Trintignant	FER	Accident
12	4	D. Splaash	VAN	Susp
13	42	M. Hawthorn	VAN	Accident
14	28	L. Villoresi	LAN	Accident
15	34	L. Musso	MAS	Accident
16	22	T. Brooks	CON	Accident
17	36	P. Collins	MAS	Accident
18	44	H. Schell	VAN	Accident
19	20	P. Taruffi	MER	Accident
20	40	E. Bayol	GOR	Accident
Fastest Lap
16	S. Moss	MER	6:44.27


Championship for Drivers
Driver	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	Total
J. Fangio	8	-	6	-	8	8	8	6	8	4	-	56
S. Moss	4	4	8	6	4	3	3	8	-	-	8	48
A. Ascari	6	8	4	4	6	4	2	3	4	-	-	41
J. Gonzalez	2	6	-	-	3	6	6	-	3	6	-	32
D. Splaash	-	-	2	8	2	2	-	-	6	8	-	28
K. Kling	3	3	3	-	-	-	-	4	-	3	-	16
N. Farina	-	2	-	3	-	-	-	-	2	-	-	7
R. Manzon	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	6	6
J. Behra	-	-	-	-	-	-	4	-	-	2	-	6
E. Castellotti	-	-	-	2	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	2
L. Villoresi	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	2	-	-	-	2


Championship for Constructors
Constructor	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	Total
Mercedes	8	4	8	6	8	8	8	8	8	4	8	78
Lancia	6	8	4	4	6	4	2	3	4	-	-	41
Ferrari	2	6	-	3	3	6	6	-	3	6	-	35
Vanwall	-	-	2	8	2	2	-	-	6	8	-	28
Gordini	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	6	6
Maserati	-	-	-	-	-	-	4	-	-	2	-	6

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That Brno shunt sounds really impressive.
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Naice! Perhaps the AI need some tweaks or something. I think setting them between 0.95 and 1 is probably appropriate. Something that puts me 1 to 2 seconds a lap slower than Fangio (because I wouldn't beat him in real life right?)

The required driving style is definitely weird though. At Silverstone, the braking areas seem too heavy and the cars reach the corners too quickly in order to cool off the brakes. So you have to drive the whole lap kind of slowly. At Monza 10k, you can push like hell because the Parabolica is the only real heavy braking zone. Spa is another track where you barely use the brakes.

I find on some circuits, the best method is to choose only one or two corners where you'll use heavy braking, and then coast into the others. Like at Crystal Palace last night, I was only really using the brakes in the final two corners. I was still really slow though.

Hotlap competition anyone? :happy:
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I'd be up for that.
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Sure! You can see some of my fastest laps in the results I posted, if you want to compare yourself to that.

Should we say Spa (the modded track), Monaco, and Crystal Palace? Best accumulative time at the end of the week wins bragging rights?
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Or, isn't it more interesting comparing consecutive laps? Should we each do one race on Novice on one appropriately long track and compare times and consistency? At like Monaco or maybe Aintree?
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The Vanwall is a weird, weird car. I just took it to another 4:02 lap at Spa, which is as fast as I achieved in the D50. Yet it felt slow and uncontrolled. The car seems to get loose when it feels like and it understeers like hell. Yet the laptimes say something different.
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Didn't realise the Mercedes was so quick. 3:58.71 at Spa now.
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That's damn good. I'll try to copy that this afternoon.
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PTRACER wrote: 7 years ago The Vanwall is a weird, weird car. I just took it to another 4:02 lap at Spa, which is as fast as I achieved in the D50. Yet it felt slow and uncontrolled. The car seems to get loose when it feels like and it understeers like hell. Yet the laptimes say something different.
A realistic portrayal then, based on what Moss and Brooks had to say.
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EB wrote: 7 years ago
PTRACER wrote: 7 years ago The Vanwall is a weird, weird car. I just took it to another 4:02 lap at Spa, which is as fast as I achieved in the D50. Yet it felt slow and uncontrolled. The car seems to get loose when it feels like and it understeers like hell. Yet the laptimes say something different.
A realistic portrayal then, based on what Moss and Brooks had to say.
These mod makers definitely did their research then. Do you have the quote?
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More GPL sessions will have to wait for me until next week. Got a big Indy 500 race this Sunday and until then lots of university stuff going on.
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Good luck!
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